tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3273302883043906742.post6171573568993971141..comments2023-09-02T10:14:53.094-04:00Comments on Recreating Eden: Thank you, John and Elizabeth Edwards, for Focusing on What MattersMary Soderstromhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09265519935852076762noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3273302883043906742.post-89362438283736383282008-02-01T08:55:00.000-05:002008-02-01T08:55:00.000-05:00Excellent comments, Martin.As for Red Mind in a Bl...Excellent comments, Martin.<BR/><BR/>As for Red Mind in a Blue State, I suggest he (or she) read The Conscience of a Liberal by Paul Krugman, which outlines the ways in which the US has become more unequal in the last 30 years. This is a situation that must be addressed without getting caught up in rhetoric. <BR/><BR/>Cheers<BR/><BR/>MaryMary Soderstromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09265519935852076762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3273302883043906742.post-78839733472381679732008-01-31T18:13:00.000-05:002008-01-31T18:13:00.000-05:00Another thought: If we achieve the material ends I...Another thought: If we achieve the material ends I mentioned in my previous comment, then, perhaps, we might better understand that the poor we have always with us are the poor in spirit -- not the poverty stricken in a world of plenty.<BR/>--mlMartin Langelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12214277415738344944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3273302883043906742.post-89888593275521792932008-01-31T18:09:00.000-05:002008-01-31T18:09:00.000-05:00When everyone has food sufficient in easy reach to...When everyone has food sufficient in easy reach to avoid malnutrition and nutritional deficiency based illnesses; When every one has adequate shelter to temper the storms and other vagaries of weather; When everyone receives the medical care they need readily; when opportunities to learn are available to all who pursue them; when useful work is available to all who seek it; when the work of homemakers and caretakers is honored and valued as much as the work of factory or office hands and they all can hold their own in society compared with factory owners; Then a society might meet to discuss their position. Have they ended poverty? Or not? I think they have if they maintain a free vote to to change their society as their experience and intelligence prompt.<BR/>The outline of a free society without poverty is not hard to see. If one looks. Unless it is imperative to one's position not to see.<BR/>--mlMartin Langelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12214277415738344944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3273302883043906742.post-81568883752644540532008-01-31T15:36:00.000-05:002008-01-31T15:36:00.000-05:00What does the end of poverty look like?John Edward...What does the end of poverty look like?<BR/><BR/>John Edwards concluded his Presidential campaign yesterday, but not before securing pledges from Obama and Clinton that they would make the ending of poverty central to their presidential campaigns.<BR/><BR/>Regardless the road we choose to take, be it a conservative path or a liberal one-- at what point will we consider people out of poverty? Can somebody tell me. Not platitudes like "when every person is living in dignity and without fear" or some other claptrap. I can't measure that, and unless we figure out how to achieve some communistic land of perfection, where everyone is robotically equal, we will always have different strata in society. The poor will always be with us.<BR/><BR/>So, please somebody tell me-- What does the end of poverty look like?A Red Mind in a Blue Statehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01423945703299761676noreply@blogger.com